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If anyone was trying to buy the Joe The Pumber tee and could not please shoot us a note at [email protected] and we will take care of you. S -

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  • KidCam said 300 weeks ago

    love the design
    i might pick one up later in the day
    hate that it takes 2 weeks for me to get my shirt =(
  • OpenIntro said 300 weeks ago

    logins are screwed. still a way to buy the joe shirt? seriously? cause i want it.

    a few things (and not just cause im drunk)_

    a) im so proud of you guys. the dbh email was awesome

    b) international shipping. AWESOME. VIVA SCOTLAND!

    c) http://thedeadbird.wordpress.com for all your archive needs

    d) seriously, i love tee fury

    that.is.all.
  • jesuschrist said 300 weeks ago

    yeah logins and the checkout shared the same piece of code which had a little snafu in them from switching over to Intl. But everything is good to go now!

    Thanks for your support on TDB (The Dead Bird) - we appreciate the archive and use it often.

    If you were trying to buy the Joe The Plumber shirt but could not please email [email protected] and on Monday we will take care of this - since no one could really buy the last 15 minutes or so.
  • OpenIntro said 300 weeks ago

    to be fair,i was smoking a hookah and drinking drinks so i forgot to buy but WANTED to buy since its going to be my halloween costume. so me emailing you. do as you need. layne, its friday, go have a drink plz.
  • eHalcyon said 300 weeks ago

    First of all, INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING. I'm psyched! Thanks for working so hard to get this going, Layne.

    A more serious matter, however - this design was just up on woot not two weeks ago. It's a great design, but this is clearly in violation of the contract that was agreed to by the artist when she submitted it in the Text As Art derby. Woot has a 60-day hold on all designs submitted. I'm not sure what this legally means for the artist or TeeFury, but you guys will probably have to figure this out quickly.
  • OpenIntro said 300 weeks ago

    wow. Debbie Downer imo.
  • peppersagooddog said 300 weeks ago

    wow good catch there ehalc, i have not been paying as much attention to all of the entries lately and completely forgot it existed.
  • Theo said 300 weeks ago

    A more serious matter, however - this design was just up on woot not two weeks ago. It's a great design, but this is clearly in violation of the contract that was agreed to by the artist when she submitted it in the Text As Art derby. Woot has a 60-day hold on all designs submitted. I'm not sure what this legally means for the artist or TeeFury, but you guys will probably have to figure this out quickly.


    Oh wow I'd hate to be the one that has to sort this out....

    At least it hasn't been printed, but still Woot and TF need to send an email or two.
  • JadenKale said 300 weeks ago

    Oh wow I'd hate to be the one that has to sort this out....

    At least it hasn't been printed, but still Woot and TF need to send an email or two.

    oh believe me, they got emails within minutes of this going up.
  • OpenIntro said 300 weeks ago

    the question is.....how does TeeFury verify across all sites?
  • YutFree said 300 weeks ago

    So a shirt that came in sixty-third place on Woot is being sold here--and in violation of the 60-day thing? Uh, wow.
  • ansharp said 300 weeks ago

    Another important note: This shirt received an Honorable Mention on woot, and thus, it is slotted to reappear in the next Do-Over derby (probably next week).
  • peppersagooddog said 300 weeks ago

    @ yut

    IMO you dont agree to a contract if you dont intend to follow it. having no honor is fail bro, no matter how little it may "matter" in the grand scheme of things.
  • BuckeyesGirl1 said 300 weeks ago

    JadenKale wrote: "oh believe me, they got emails within minutes of this going up."

    I also sent them an email, suggesting that they modify their text filters to replace the word "smurf" with "JadenKale" and vice-versa.

    The Woot staff seems pretty cool so I don't think they'll begrudge an artist making some money off a design their customer base clearly didn't want. It also isn't in their best interest to bully another t-shirt site and take money from an artist's pocket.
  • jesuschrist said 300 weeks ago

    Hello everyone - we really have to rely on the artist to be forthcoming with us in these matters - a side email has been sent to Joel - lets see what they say - we really had no idea - we have enough to worry about at TeeFury - we don't have time to verify all designs - although we do deny designs when we know a piece of art is still in the running somewhere else.

    Having said all that - at TeeFury artists retain 100% of their rights - so therefor Woot can still print this piece under their contract, an Artist owns their work until they have been paid for their work - the 60 day limit on woot, or limit on any other tshirt site is there to protect against other contest sites, simply because it takes time to choose winners, get tees printed etc.

    In our experience, artists have been able to email anothersite, dbh etc. and ask to have their design removed and every time the corresponding contest site has been very cool and let the artists have their work back - I am not sure how or what woot will do - however we intend to continue selling this tee for the remaining 24 hours unless we hear diffrently from the artist or woot.
  • TheArtRobot said 300 weeks ago

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    Joel from Woot e-mailed me and told me to let him know if I wanted to use this design elsewhere. When I found out that Tee Fury wanted to print it, I e-mailed him to get it released, so it won't be appearing in Woot's Do-Over derby.
    Thanks for the comments.
  • jesuschrist said 300 weeks ago

    Hey guys lets be cool to Jaden - we would love to print her here as well - she wrote a very professional email and got us talking with woot - here was my response:
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    Hello Everyone!

    Wow this is a bit of a pickle. Just so everyone is clear we ask the artist if their artwork is available and 99% of the time the artist will let us know if the design is under contract at anothersite, dbh, woot etc. In this case we did not verify what the artist told us - we trusted them (having said that, we do deny art weekley which we see in the running at other contest sites).

    Joel - its your call - we truly had no idea - we have already taken orders on this tee, and would incur some serious costs in taking it down (we are only 90 days old) - with TeeFury the artist retains all the rights, there is nothing prohibiting Woot in STILL printing this design - teefury is not a typical contest site.

    Thanks in advance for your clarification - Also - perhaps you would grant Jaden to be released early also - anothersite, DBH all allow their artist to take their work back if they write in and request - I am only working off this email and have not had a chance to talk with Michael and Anik -
  • derekfilley said 300 weeks ago

    I think the fault is %100 in the artist's corner if a 60 day agreement is violated. The agreement is between the artist and a shirt contest site and almost always involves a non-submission clause for giving a design to other sites within a designated time period.

    If this shirt got an HM at Woot(!) it's theirs for 90 days unless the artist specifically wrote them and asked them to let him have his design back.
  • eHalcyon said 300 weeks ago

    Derek, I think it's actually 180 days, not 90. Not sure though. And I agree - the responsibility lies with the artist for being honest. It may actually be that she didn't realize there was a hold on the design - unfortunately, too many people don't take the time to read what they are agreeing to.

    If anyone knows - has Woot ever been in this position before, and if so, what did they do? My impression of woot is that they would find a way to work it out...
  • peppersagooddog said 300 weeks ago

    thank you artrobot for clearing that up.
    it is obvious that refusing the HM at woot left it free earlier than the usual time period.
    then i guess its time to congratulate you on the print now and finish everyones animosity.
    RIGHT EVERYONE??? ITS OVER NOW OK?????
  • derekfilley said 300 weeks ago

    Woot(!) has released designs back to artists early before (I can think of at least one specific instance way back in the 'visual sound' derby)
  • YutFree said 300 weeks ago

    Layne: May I recommend creating a simple electronic form that your designers can submit to you? In that form, you could ask if the design has been printed before, if so when, and if not is it still under a written agreement with another site. This needn't devolve into a horrid "we love legal stuff" situation. Just better to know up front if there are issues--and to be able to have something to point back to and say, "Uh, dude, 'member this?" if the designer "forgets" to tell you something.

    (Yes, as it turns out, this designer had received a release from Woot. If you had known that in advance, you could have noted it in the description and none of this would have been necessary.)
  • OpenIntro said 300 weeks ago

    agree Derek. the fault lies in the artist who signs the contract when submitting. a form would be good to confirm, but its impossible for teefury to verify considering all the venues an artist has.

    since teefury lets it go in 24 hours, kind of a no contest imo....
  • JadenKale said 300 weeks ago

    (Yes, as it turns out, this designer had received a release from Woot. If you had known that in advance, you could have noted it in the description and none of this would have been necessary.)

    Out of the Do-Over Derby perhaps, but not out of the 60 day agreement with woot just for entering it in the derby. Joel has always held steadfast to that contract. You click agree every time you enter a design.

    Derek - I'm actually interested as to which design you are referring to.
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