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Lion Guardant

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  • dmcbrsaid 152 weeks ago

    nice!
  • Wookeesaid 152 weeks ago

    OOOOOOH! I really like this tee.

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  • Zhydsaid 152 weeks ago

    I am a proud owner of the bandido shirt from the side.
  • Zhydsaid 152 weeks ago

    I am a proud owner of the bandido shirt from the side.
  • Scrimshawsaid 152 weeks ago

    Not a huge fan, although it is nice, but have no fear! I already own the one with the Day of the Dead Skull (kinda) on the left!
  • Omnitariansaid 152 weeks ago

    If Narnia had its own currency, I bet it would look something like this.
  • Lamaksaid 152 weeks ago

    Nice, print is kinda small though.
  • Zhydsaid 152 weeks ago

    lol @ Omnitarian
  • tdsheltonsaid 152 weeks ago

    looks great, but i just bought a very light tee from here a few days back...maybe if it were done on another color...
  • naytallysaid 152 weeks ago

    Ah, original artwork, how we have missed thee!
  • WonderboyAhoysaid 152 weeks ago

    @wookee Epic signature. Glad I could be a part of history!

    This would look nicer on a darker color. Not a dark color, but maybe a light brown or tan. The cream is too white I think. Otherwise, great design.
  • Wookeesaid 152 weeks ago

    I like the size of the print on this shirt. Of course I'm not a fan at all of the huge prints that are on most of the shirts here, maybe I'm old fashioned. That doesn't mean I still don't buy the shirts, just that I'd prefer a little smaller design, maybe 80%.
  • billdzrsaid 152 weeks ago

    bought!...for the crazy Leo in my life.
  • nitsabeansaid 152 weeks ago

    Love this, but I'm w/ Wonderboy... Something darker would be better. Sand, maybe.
  • KyleMittskussaid 152 weeks ago

    FYI FYI FYI FYI FYI FYI

    Portfolio links leads back to Teefury.com
  • Courtchusaid 152 weeks ago

    Hmm...I don't like the face so much, but the pattern in the mane is pretty neat :) If the face was different, I would like it a lot more...
  • Soccerfun88said 152 weeks ago

    I want this so bad... but I've been spending so much lately...

    Ponder ponder ponder.
  • macattacksaid 152 weeks ago

    FOR ASLAN!!!!

    I couldn't live with myself if I didn't buy this,
  • Arsonsaid 152 weeks ago

    Hey Everyone, thanks for all the comments, good or bad I appreciate any and all advice. I just wanted to let everyone know that I am currently still trying to finish my webpage. So hopefully i should have a link to my portfolio shortly.
  • Mr. Sweet N Awfulsaid 152 weeks ago

    Really pretty design, but I def gotta tighten the belt for the next few months.
    If that skull on the side was on sale though, wo-o-oah boy, goodbye eleven bucks.



    June 19, 2009
    NEVER FORGET
  • Kimoppisaid 152 weeks ago

    I really like the art, but there is something about the lack of an eye that just creeps me out.

    The lion itself seems so regal, but without an eye it seems to lack a soul.
  • Wookeesaid 152 weeks ago


    Kimoppi
    said 2 minutes ago
    I really like the art, but there is something about the lack of an eye that just creeps me out.

    The lion itself seems so regal, but without an eye it seems to lack a soul.


    you mean to say it looks.... DEAD INSIDE?
  • KyleMittskussaid 152 weeks ago

    A+++ Wookee!!! Well played!
  • TurnThePaigesaid 152 weeks ago

    no we will never forget hahaha wookee.
    glad to part of that history.

    i like this shirt, but not enough to buy it.
    but kudos it is legit and pretty much amazing.

  • Arsonsaid 152 weeks ago

    I get that alot! Every time i put pupils in my illustrations it never looks right.
  • Citizen_Insanesaid 152 weeks ago

    Not something I would wear but still a great design, cool side art too.

    @Wookee: Awesome sig and as Kyle said, well played. I see many more luls to come as a result of 6-19-09.
  • Kimoppisaid 152 weeks ago

    Maybe if the eye was just filled in with a dark colour?

    Very rarely do people make side-view pupils look good.
  • Soccerfun88said 152 weeks ago

    I, for one, don't care that there is no pupil.
  • Citizen_Insanesaid 152 weeks ago

    P.S. @the artist: That is going to make an absolutely AWESOME tattoo.
  • Nnenenesaid 152 weeks ago

    Such a great design! I kind of like the lack of pupil. Sort of a ghostly, regal lion!

  • shaunyrsaid 152 weeks ago

    Incredible design.
  • rouricksaid 152 weeks ago

    This design is awesome! Two things holding me back for now, 1) I just bought a lion shirt from Uneetee, and 2)Alstyle shirts fit me slightly oddly. I don't dislike them, but they seem a little stiff and boxy on my frame. To the curators, have you ever thought about offering the option to buyers to pay a slightly higher amount, like $12, and have it printed on something like AA shirts? I'm not saying get rid of Alstyle, I'm saying have both options for buyers and they can choose which they prefer.
  • rouricksaid 152 weeks ago

    @Arson, just curious, why are you getting this as a tattoo? I think it will look fantastic, just curious as to the personal significance.
  • Zhydsaid 152 weeks ago

    I think the lack of pupil is neat. However, some eye details would be fantastic. I've always loved drawing eyes. Maybe you could make the iris an interesting color. It would make a nice detail point and good visual contrast from the rest of the piece, which is pretty monochromatic.
  • stablercakesaid 152 weeks ago

    Hmm, animal with filigree. Pretty standard, but well-designed, just not my taste.

    I'm upset that I didn't snap up that bandido one :C
  • HalfroAngelsaid 152 weeks ago

    OMG!!! I Love Lion Shirts, of course I am a Leo, This one is the best!!! I'm buying two!!!
  • incredibleninjasaid 152 weeks ago

    Oh. Soooo much better than the last, like, 12 days. This is the direction you should be moving. I guess it took a low, really low, point like 06-19-09 to show how bad the shirts were getting.
  • disgruntledchaosaid 152 weeks ago

    While this is certainly a step in the right direction, can we have less animal tees?
  • Zhydsaid 152 weeks ago

    @stablercake

    That was actually my first purchase from this site. Unfortunately, they sent it a size too large, and the seams are... strange. They're twisty. Still, I love it. One day I might cut the print out and sew it into another tee.
  • psv-stefsaid 152 weeks ago

    hmm the lion does look dead inside...
  • Jestiksaid 152 weeks ago


    Thundercats, Hooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Olympiasaid 152 weeks ago

    Very beautiful :) just wish it was bigger?
  • agsdad99said 152 weeks ago

    This is a breath of fresh air after 6-19 XD. I love the mane. Bought. :)
  • Snp469said 152 weeks ago

    I love the shirt. Definitely more my style than the last week or so. The lion without pupils looks not only regal but otherworldly, like it's going to start shooting out laser beams from it's eyes. I also like the design on cream. I think if it was on a sand or tan shirt, the colors and details of the design would be lost.

    I've gone crazy buying t-shirts since I found this site AND I am not normally even a t-shirt wearer! LOL Buying one now.
  • wendyraesaid 152 weeks ago

    The "Never Forget" comments are cracking me up...

    I LOVE this design! I don't NEED any more TeeFury shirts right now, but I think I'm going to have to have this. I'm a Leo and have always loved lions. This is *beautiful* and classical.

    (FWIW, I love the huge designs that cover most of the shirt. I wish this print was larger.)

    Way to go, TeeFury!
  • TBS3311said 152 weeks ago

    I like the lion. Perfect for my Leo brother, therefore a definite buy.

    As a side note, I have to say I find some of these t-shirt wonks to be tedious in their inability to forgive or forget any misstep on the part of any t-shirt merchant in their myopic little online world. Now we get to hear about "the sin of 6-19-09" forever into eternity, until we're right sick of it.

    I hope everyone has enough largesse and imagination to MOVE ON soon... otherwise we'll all be treated to the nightly mewlings of a small cadre of self-congratulatory mini-fascists in search of the next geekinese way to express their need for universal adherence to their ephemeral, unwritten "laws of what is acceptable in the world of t-shirts".

    You sniveling lot become tiresome in the extreme after a while, so step off and try to get yourselves all growed up, if that's possible, okay? TeeFury made a mistake. Everyone makes mistakes. There's no reason they should have their noses rubbed in it ad nauseum.
  • scythesaid 152 weeks ago

    i honestly cant believe people like wookee and co. are that petty and sad that they are wasting a ton of energy about that 'dead inside' tee.

    seriously, if thats whats gets you out of bed in the morning, to keep rambling on and on about that day, it just perfectly illustrates how pathetic your life is at the moment.

    stop being a petty coward pest who hides behind the veil of the internet to pull cheap shots and get over it, or unveil who you really are to give your comments weight.

    lets see you run a successful tshirt site before you can throw cheap dirt.
  • kitsunegarisaid 152 weeks ago

    Before I forget to ask, did you design this as a tattoo before you decided to make it into a shirt design? Sorta has that look to it. It will make a wicked tattoo! Reminds me of a sculpture or an architectual piece you would see on the corner of a large building or cathedral. (Hope that makes sense. It's early and my thoughts are jumbled.)

    @TBS3311 and scythe: Well said both of you. I was just thinking along those lines. I love coming to TeeFury not only for the designs, but for the artist blurbs and discussions. But that day left a bad taste in my mouth, not because of the design or because of TeeFury, but because of the comments. Some of those were low blows, or at least I thought they were. Granted, I wasn't aware that a similar idea/design existed, but it didn't take me long to figure it out. After that, it seemed like the attacks were coming swiftly and not-so-silently. Now I'm not trying to pick fights with all of you, I'm just stating my opinion on this. I just believe placing blame is easier than taking it.

    That's all I'm going to say about that.
  • donkeyking07said 152 weeks ago

    Jesus allegory lion anyone? I love it, great job.
  • JSEsaid 152 weeks ago

    My first tee bought! Great design! I really like how the mane of the lion is the leaf-like filagree. To me, it represents the everything "nature", both animal and plant, an intertwining of the two. Plus, it reminds me of a coat-of-arms or someething you might see carved into an ornate wood throne.
  • Arsonsaid 152 weeks ago

    rourick said 7 hours ago
    @Arson, just curious, why are you getting this as a tattoo? I think it will look fantastic, just curious as to the personal significance.

    In ancient heraldry the lion stood for "Pride, Courage, and Loyalty" traits that i feel represent myself. It was originally just suppose to be for my tattoo then I decided i wanted it to possibly be a theme on my web gallery.
  • robinzeggblusaid 152 weeks ago

    much much much better guys, Original artwork FTW!

    I love the concept and the rendering is nice, Overall, a thumbs up for the design :)
    Keep up the good work!
  • randomhero326said 152 weeks ago

    this shirt is beautiful. I just can't afford it right now, But i love the design. great work.
  • FuzzyLogicsaid 152 weeks ago


    Lamak
    said 10 hours ago
    Nice, print is kinda small though.


    That's debatable in my opinion. As the way the design lays out on the shirt.
    It's got a pretty good size to it. Dammit. I *have* to get this one.
    I just bought yesterdays. But alas... me and my boyfriend collect limited edition LION shirts when we like them, and I think he'll like this one and I always like giving gifts to people. 11 Dollars.
    Damn. I sure hope there's nothing else that comes up that I *HAVE* to have. Look like a fun read today as well. Lots of comments. I sure hope the SINISTER lady doesn't say "TeeFury. The place for animals and skull shirts" again. *ugh*

    Boyfriend looks good LION around in these types of shirt.
    *GROAN* Sorry :D
  • whitethundersaid 152 weeks ago

    shoulda been a penguin
  • FuzzyLogicsaid 152 weeks ago

    I spoke too soon.
    TeeFury doesn't like XXXL people. (Kidding)
    He just hates tight Tshirts. The 2XL in my opinion fit him fine.
    He's just a tad self conscious. *sigh*

    Will Re-Think about this and maybe get it for myself. I just wanted to get him a treat today. I'll make him dinner tomorrow instead. :)
    @Arson. Sometimes it's nice to get art because you love the art.
    Not every tattoo has to have a *story* as the rancid tattoo shows make sure everyone they AIR has some wonderful/sad story behind it.
    He made the art... that's significant enough! It's a beautiful piece!
    Don't wanna sound jerky... just remember there are tattoo collectors out there that collect it for the art. Sure, I'm mostly covered and some of them do have significance, most only ideas I've thought up to go with my appreciation of Asian Tattoo Art.
    Life is good.
    I have 1 billion channels of TV and I'm currently watching stuff on my VCR of old tapes I have. Woohoo!
  • solidasarsaid 152 weeks ago

    I really like this design (probably don't like it on white but I think it blends well with white).

    I bought this shirt and appreciate that @teefury contributes to distributing a variety of designs submitted by true great talent.
  • stablercakesaid 152 weeks ago

    @people complaining about the people laughing about 6-19

    It's not that serious, they're just having some fun. :\
  • TBS3311said 152 weeks ago

    stablercake, bullies always retreat into some whiny version of "I was just joking" when called on their bad behavior.

    I have the zip file of the transcteefurycopy of the comments from that night. The things that were said were not said in fun. There was much petty meanness dished up. If this was done in fun, this self-important cadre of drama queens who take it upon themselves to rain abuse on any online t-shirt merchant that makes a misstep need to redefine their idea of "fun".

    TeeFury has provided excellent goods at a fantastic price for some time now, and the thanks they get is a vicious verbal whipping from the snot-nosed knot of disaffected few who worship at the altar of immutable design PC.

    What's most ironic is these snotty git couldn't produce a winning design if their lives depended on it.
  • FuzzyLogicsaid 152 weeks ago

    @ TBS3311
    !Hahahahaha.

    You're pitching a stink yourself. Griping. Saying to *let it go*
    Yet you have a zip archive of it?
    LET IT GO! Hahaha
    egads.
  • Myzelinhosaid 152 weeks ago

    Very nice one! I bought this shirt :-))
  • Vidoxsaid 152 weeks ago

    I personally love the cream with this design, might have to grab this one.
  • TBS3311said 152 weeks ago

    FuzzyLogic, I fully expected you to fall back on that as an argument. When your kind behaves badly, and are called on it, you manipulate like mad in order to try to justify or dismiss your own wrongdoing. Good luck with that.
  • KyleMittskussaid 152 weeks ago

    @ Stablercake:

    How can you say that?! It is 100% serious! It would be 110% serious of that didn't defy the rules of mathematical physics! If we say it's a joke, we WILL forget. :)
  • viracochasaid 152 weeks ago

    awesome tee!
  • torij9said 152 weeks ago

    Beautiful! If I can find some way to justify spending more money on t-shirts before the next shirt arrives, I will definitely go for it.
  • Euphoriasaid 152 weeks ago

    this shirts very interesting reminds me of moldings in houses.
    cant get it tho need to save money cool design homies
  • thefatunicornsaid 152 weeks ago

    Good stuff, I bought one =)

    Also, lol @ unecessary drama on teefury.
  • Wookeesaid 152 weeks ago


    TBS3311
    said 7 hours ago
    I like the lion. Perfect for my Leo brother, therefore a definite buy.

    As a side note, I have to say I find some of these t-shirt wonks to be tedious in their inability to forgive or forget any misstep on the part of any t-shirt merchant in their myopic little online world. Now we get to hear about "the sin of 6-19-09" forever into eternity, until we're right sick of it.

    I hope everyone has enough largesse and imagination to MOVE ON soon... otherwise we'll all be treated to the nightly mewlings of a small cadre of self-congratulatory mini-fascists in search of the next geekinese way to express their need for universal adherence to their ephemeral, unwritten "laws of what is acceptable in the world of t-shirts".

    You sniveling lot become tiresome in the extreme after a while, so step off and try to get yourselves all growed up, if that's possible, okay? TeeFury made a mistake. Everyone makes mistakes. There's no reason they should have their noses rubbed in it ad nauseum.


    You so smart and serious! Thank you for showing me the error of my ways Captain Fun Patrol! This one is for you:
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  • TBS3311said 152 weeks ago

    Wookee, still haven't quite reached the point of maturity, I see.

    Whether you like it or not, this website is a place of business, just like any store you walk into off the street. TeeFury, just like any retail business, are concerned with their bottom line. They have bills to pay and employees to compensate.

    In this time of a global economic downturn, businesses are watching their costs versus income, and a day's sales figures can make a huge difference in survival or failure. You and your buddies, with your horribly offended sensibilities, took it upon yourself to create such a wave of negative chaos here, in this place of business, that you forced a merchant to change their sales plan.

    IT'S NOT YOUR PLACE TO TELL ANYONE WHAT THEY MAY AND MAY NOT SELL IN THEIR PLACE OF BUSINESS.

    Do you even understand that at all? Or have you gotten so used to going into sissy-slapping and girly-screaming mode anytime you see a t-shirt design you don't like, that it's become impossible for you to see someone else's point of view?

    When you have your own t-shirt website, you will have the right to decide what's offered for sale. Until then, shut your insolent yap and get your ego under control. By all rights, you and all your tantrum-throwing pals should be banned from this site. If I were running it, I would have blocked the lot of you by IP the minute you started disrupting the place.

    In any offline (IRL) place of business, when non-paying customers come in and start creating chaos, they get tossed out on their a$$es.

    In the future, if you lot start going ballistic because you don't like what's offered, I hope TeeFury takes a hard line and kicks you out; it's what you will deserve.
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    MJsaid 152 weeks ago

    TeeFury welcomes comments from anyone, whether they agree with our decisions or not.

    Please try to keep your comments respectful towards everyone in this community- artist, staff, forum poster or otherwise.
  • cibasnidesaid 152 weeks ago

    The internet is serious business
  • Olechkasaid 152 weeks ago

    It's amazing how much depth you achieved with only using 3 colors. This lion has character; he says "don't %$#@ with me!" And the style of the art goes well with the subject - very strong. This really would make a kick-arse tattoo! Great pick, Jimiyo!
  • Tuismsaid 152 weeks ago

    Hey TBS, the more you react and make a scene (the internet equivelent of long posts that noone reads is that dude ranting and screaming that noone listens to), the more he's gonna throw that pic around.

    And throwing that pic around's not really hurting anyone, since people who don't know where it comes from won't understand it and dudes who know it just giggles.

    At the end of the day, what's most important is we're all still here on TF enjoying their tees :)
  • stablercakesaid 152 weeks ago

    Wooahhh ok, TBS3311

    I know there were some hurtful things said in that transcteefurycopy, but I didn't insult the artist like some. I gave feedback but tried to ignore the personal stuff. True, I questioned some judgement from more than one person, but nothing I said was intended to hurt anyone. The latter half of that thread was mostly just in good fun, though I admit some of the earlier personal jabs could have been left at the door.

    True, we can't tell TF what to sell, but we can voice our opinions so they know what their customers are thinking, we just happened to think negatively that day.

    As far as behaviour, honestly the only one going ballistic here is you. Just like we have no right to tell TeeFury what to sell, you have no right to tell us our opinions are invalid and we should be "tossed out on [our] a$$es".
  • Olechkasaid 152 weeks ago

    I think that it's a bit rude to discuss yesterday's design/other issues, totally unrelated to what is being sold today. TBS3311 already started a thread in the forum with a discussion of yesterday's event. How about moving that conversation to THAT THREAD? Just a suggestion...
  • TBS3311said 152 weeks ago

    MJ, you'll have to pardon me. This small group of self-appointed "design watchdogs" with an over-inflated sense of entitlement have periodically created total bedlam on Woot and other sites for at least a couple of years now. Everyone's just put up with it forever, but I for one am getting fed up. They try to say it's just all in good fun, but it isn't. They hurt the artists, they interfere with the retail sales, they ruin everything. It's unacceptable.
  • TBS3311said 152 weeks ago

    And that's all I'm going to say about this.
  • incredibleninjasaid 152 weeks ago

    How dare you people try to make light of the tragedies of 06-19? "Never forget" is a rallying cry to the injustices done to the good people of Teefury by a lazy mad-man gone insane with his hatred of democratic tee-freedom or tee-dom. That is a day that tee-lovers will never get back. And if we don't fight bad tee's bad tee's will strike again. Please don't let history repeat itself with a teefury shirt that says something like "I do what the voices tell me" or "B*tch and proud of it!" Or god forbid another corporate logo rip off. How bout the McDonalds arches accept it says: Mac On it!

    Never forget!
  • stablercakesaid 152 weeks ago

    I agree, Olechka, I just didn't see anywhere else to post. Thank you,

    As far as THIS design goes, I still dig it as a well-designed image and have actually just noticed how few colors there are. Great work! Not my taste, but now that I think about it I have a friend that might really love this!
  • icecubesaid 152 weeks ago

    I seem to have forgotten. Hrm.
  • Someonesaid 152 weeks ago

    This shirt is absolutely stunning. I love the detail in the mane. I like that there isn't a pupil as it gives quality negative spacing.

    How dare there be this tomfoolery on my internets! Laughing is not allowed! You people need to be serious 24/7! T-shirt websites are very serious business. If we don't fight the council of evil t-shirts there, we'll have to fight them here! Send off every zig! It's over 9000!

    Also Wookee...can you please submit that design to be made into a T-shirt? With a can of cherries and a McRib on top?
  • teelicioussaid 152 weeks ago

    now now, lets not get heated or anything, hey?
    :|

    i really want this oneeee. :(
  • Wookeesaid 152 weeks ago

    @TBS3311

    My dear friend, would you please be so kind as to point out any time that I said Teefury should alter its business plan by pulling the shirt in question? I never once said it. I love purchasing shirts from this site and will continue to do so long after you have gone.

    I'm sorry (well not really) that you were so bu++-hurt by the fact that people were enjoying themselves in poking fun at the design that was for sale. My great-grandfather has a difficult time enjoying himself as well, so I know where you are coming from.

    Did you notice that the tee wasn't initially pulled because the people that run this site decided it was good for business to have the elongated discussions in order to build a sense of community? I have the feeling you only read what you wanted to see in order to feel justified in your tirade to really "lay into those little punks."

    I'm quite sure that "those little punks" mean far more to TeeFury's bottom line than people such as yourself that have 2x4's lodged squarely in their chutes. Pull it out and have a little fun in life.

    Now I'm starting to sound like you with a 4 paragraph response and that is unacceptable, so at this point I will /rant.
  • dotysaid 152 weeks ago

    Not a big fan, kinda boring!
  • georgesaid 152 weeks ago

    If it was black I'd buy it in a heartbeat!
  • Velasco9said 152 weeks ago

    I like it. I thought they were suppose 2 b black
  • whitelightprojectsaid 152 weeks ago

    I really like the movement in the mane. I think the image placement will be very flattering on a female shape.
  • Mr.Xsaid 152 weeks ago

    TBS3311 I totally agree that there are a lot of little children on here that hide behind the internet and really just need to deal with the current tee instead of continuing to act like they have been acting for days now. Move on...

    Love the lion!
  • macattacksaid 152 weeks ago

    ha ha ha ha I just realized....Tiger Tahs!
  • tyzsaid 152 weeks ago

    I like it.

    Reminds me of Tom Burns' Nineteen Seventy Five with a lion instead of a chick.
  • calvinpoesaid 152 weeks ago

    Teefury is serious business.
  • ego1080said 152 weeks ago

    first tee i bought in a very long time. cheers on the good work
  • KyleMittskussaid 152 weeks ago

    Im sooo close to buying it. The only thing holding me back is the shirt itself. I prefer tighter shirts and these shirts are a bit loose. However, I really really like it.
  • Watersaid 152 weeks ago

    cool shirt yo
  • L3g3ndQsaid 152 weeks ago

    if this was not on a white/cream shirt and instead on a dark gray or black or dark blue shirt i would totally buy it. B^(
  • Soccerfun88said 152 weeks ago

    I'm so glad I got back on here before midnight...
    I saw tomorrow's preview and realized I hadn't bought this shirt yet. Cut it pretty close.
  • SimpleSinssaid 152 weeks ago

    Nice! Love the shirt, first buy on this website and im a leo to top it all off!.
  • SteelWoolysaid 152 weeks ago

    1st shirt bought after probably 4 months of lurkering. . . Nice lines Arson, great choice for ink too. I'm wishing the shirt placement was as you were describing the placement for your tat - but hey, all good.
    Thanks T-Fury, keep 'em coming.

    (p.s. In regards to "The Day"(stuuupid!!) - don't let the busters/haters mess with a good thing. 13yr olds have to have something to be smurfed about)
  • StaticSethsaid 152 weeks ago

    I grabbed one of these to add to my collection of shirts with animals on 'em. Really like the design and think it would look amazing as a tattoo.

    I'm hoping the cream color is a little darker, though. It looks kinda white, but I'm sure it'll be cool either way.
  • thejakeyl88said 152 weeks ago

    The cream looks darker than how you described it on my monitor, maybe your monitor is a little more bright than mine is set?