Teefury

BOOM!

Dont know if i should buy it...

I do like the bird!

This would be an INSTABUY if it was on a different color! ;)

Well that blows monkey nuts. I came back for the My Name Is Earl shirt and it's gone. :( Oh well. If it's an originality issue, odds are pretty good I'll find it somewhere else. Still, :(.

i want the free hugs tee!

I shouldn't buy this as I'm sorta short on cash, BUT, I will make an exception. Food can wait another week damnit.

hahaha, j/k!

too bad about the KARMA shirt; I would not have bought, but I do love EARL

What the heck? The Karma shirt wasn't original enough, yet this site can run 12 smuuuuuurf Dr. Who shirts a month? That's pretty weak. What about people who bought the shirt before it got pulled? I am seriously not that happy with this site right now.

Antibus said: What the heck? The Karma shirt wasn't original enough, yet this site can run 12 smuuuuuurf Dr. Who shirts a month? That's pretty weak. What about people who bought the shirt before it got pulled? I am seriously not that happy with this site right now.

Three in January and only one was directly a Doctor Who shirt. The other two featured other aspects of sci-fi in addition to The Doctor.

Originality? Was the art stolen or something? Bizarre.

10 bucks for this replacement shirt? Yeah that is not gonna happen.

Just started buying from this site and seriously disappointed. Went to put money on my card and come back and the karma shirt gone? Not cool. If u put a shirt up, leave it for the time allowed or don't put it up at all.

Agree with Antibus, not cuz I was crazy about the other shirt, but because originality does not seem to be a priority anymore these days. I LOVE TEE FURY, but I get tired of the pop culture references everyday ( I used to want to watch the Dr. Who series, now I just don't wanna see another phone booth/scarf again). You guys used to run a lot more original art.

Antibus said: What the heck? The Karma shirt wasn't original enough, yet this site can run 12 smuuuuuurf Dr. Who shirts a month? That's pretty weak. What about people who bought the shirt before it got pulled? I am seriously not that happy with this site right now.

the other artwork was stolen.

everyone complaining about the other design being taken off, it wasn't that artist's work, it was stolen. would you want someone stealing your artwork and making a profit off of it? i seriously doubt it. we should be commending TeeFury for handling the situation and not allowing a theif to profit off the tee sales, not screaming at them for taking the design down.

If the artwork is stolen, fair enough for pulling it! But i think an important point has been raised in the above comments. The originality has gone a bit stale. I think there are way too many Dr.Who shirts and not enough original art (art which doesn't focus on a particular TV show). Even if a T shirt isn't exclusively Dr.Who, people who dislike Dr.Who aren't going to buy it.

deveraux said: everyone complaining about the other design being taken off, it wasn't that artist's work, it was stolen. would you want someone stealing your artwork and making a profit off of it? i seriously doubt it. we should be commending TeeFury for handling the situation and not allowing a theif to profit off the tee sales, not screaming at them for taking the design down.

Agreed. There's a difference between a fandom you don't appreciate, and art that has been stolen.

deveraux said: everyone complaining about the other design being taken off, it wasn't that artist's work, it was stolen. would you want someone stealing your artwork and making a profit off of it? i seriously doubt it. we should be commending TeeFury for handling the situation and not allowing a theif to profit off the tee sales, not screaming at them for taking the design down.

I concur!

I'd buy it for $5.
$10 is asking a bit much for a shirt I'm not going to want to explain to people. They never get it anyway.

i support the choice of Teefury and was unaware of it being someone elses work but for the people that bought the Earl shirt, does that mean we wont get charged or do we manually cancel the order?

lanko said: If the artwork is stolen, fair enough for pulling it! But i think an important point has been raised in the above comments. The originality has gone a bit stale. I think there are way too many Dr.Who shirts and not enough original art (art which doesn't focus on a particular TV show). Even if a T shirt isn't exclusively Dr.Who, people who dislike Dr.Who aren't going to buy it.

the same could be said about anything else. of course people who don't like it aren't going to buy it but the issue is that there are about a trillion people who do like doctor who and will buy every single design. don't get me wrong, i'm all for teefury going back to more original pieces that don't have anything to do with pop culture but i think turning the front page of the site in to an anti doctor who rant is a bit ridiculous. this is what the forums are for people.

people will ALWAYS find something to complain about.

"waahhhhh its doctor who AGAIN!!!!"

"waaahhhhhhhhhh WHY ARE YOU PRINTING ON WHITE SHIRTS?!?!?!?!!"

"WAAAAAHHHHHHHH BLACK SHIRT!!! WHY!!!!!!!!!"

shadowx121 said: i support the choice of Teefury and was unaware of it being someone elses work but for the people that bought the Earl shirt, does that mean we wont get charged or do we manually cancel the order?

i recall my question, i noticed it was cancelled.

also, just for the record, i am by NO means a fan of doctor who. never seen an episode and would be content to go the rest of my life without it.

lanko said: If the artwork is stolen, fair enough for pulling it! But i think an important point has been raised in the above comments. The originality has gone a bit stale. I think there are way too many Dr.Who shirts and not enough original art (art which doesn't focus on a particular TV show). Even if a T shirt isn't exclusively Dr.Who, people who dislike Dr.Who aren't going to buy it.

and yet the other thousand people who ARE fans of Doctor Who WILL buy it. If Doctor Who shirts didn't sell like crazy, TF would stop printing them.

Nothing you can do about it, get over it. They've listened to you whiners and only printed 3 this month. You won't be happy until they don't print them at all, which is ridiculous considering how well they sell.

Grow up, build a bridge, and get over it.

The Earl shirt was cool, but taking it down was even cooler.
Rock on TeeFury.
If I like a shirt, I buy it. If I don't like it, I don't.
Pretty easy guideline to follow.

Stop complaining, whiners.

Issuing the Karma design:
Drawing an image would be considered an original source,
so it would not be copyright infringement.
If you take the original photo into adobe and alter it,
then it would be because you are using the original content owned.
however "shape" and "stance" can be considered an "idea, concept or principle" which are not covered by copyright.

Personally, I feel that whoever had already ordered the shirts should get them and the original artist should get the profits already made. Not sure how cost effective this is, though...

THAT'S KARMA FOR YOU!
*laughtrack*

WAnglais1 said:

Antibus said: What the heck? The Karma shirt wasn't original enough, yet this site can run 12 smuuuuuurf Dr. Who shirts a month? That's pretty weak. What about people who bought the shirt before it got pulled? I am seriously not that happy with this site right now.

Three in January and only one was directly a Doctor Who shirt. The other two featured other aspects of sci-fi in addition to The Doctor.

How many Supernatural? That seems to be as bad as Who now.

Man, a shirt get's pulled and everybody goes loco. Reading the comments is like watching a feeding frenzy. Whovians and Anti-Whovians raising armies, guess this was the straw eh? Ridiculous. Chill everybody. There'll be a new shirt in 6 hours 45 mins.

deveraux said:

lanko said: If the artwork is stolen, fair enough for pulling it! But i think an important point has been raised in the above comments. The originality has gone a bit stale. I think there are way too many Dr.Who shirts and not enough original art (art which doesn't focus on a particular TV show). Even if a T shirt isn't exclusively Dr.Who, people who dislike Dr.Who aren't going to buy it.

the same could be said about anything else. of course people who don't like it aren't going to buy it but the issue is that there are about a trillion people who do like doctor who and will buy every single design. don't get me wrong, i'm all for teefury going back to more original pieces that don't have anything to do with pop culture but i think turning the front page of the site in to an anti doctor who rant is a bit ridiculous. this is what the forums are for people.

people will ALWAYS find something to complain about.

"waahhhhh its doctor who AGAIN!!!!"

"waaahhhhhhhhhh WHY ARE YOU PRINTING ON WHITE SHIRTS?!?!?!?!!"

"WAAAAAHHHHHHHH BLACK SHIRT!!! WHY!!!!!!!!!"

QFT. Personally, I don't get "Dexter" but I don't whine when we have two shirts which reference that every month.

$10 + Shipping to be a Teefury.com commercial? I think not.

dreamsoda said: THAT'S KARMA FOR YOU!

*laughtrack*

Lmao!

WAnglais1 said:

deveraux said:

lanko said: If the artwork is stolen, fair enough for pulling it! But i think an important point has been raised in the above comments. The originality has gone a bit stale. I think there are way too many Dr.Who shirts and not enough original art (art which doesn't focus on a particular TV show). Even if a T shirt isn't exclusively Dr.Who, people who dislike Dr.Who aren't going to buy it.

the same could be said about anything else. of course people who don't like it aren't going to buy it but the issue is that there are about a trillion people who do like doctor who and will buy every single design. don't get me wrong, i'm all for teefury going back to more original pieces that don't have anything to do with pop culture but i think turning the front page of the site in to an anti doctor who rant is a bit ridiculous. this is what the forums are for people.

people will ALWAYS find something to complain about.

"waahhhhh its doctor who AGAIN!!!!"

"waaahhhhhhhhhh WHY ARE YOU PRINTING ON WHITE SHIRTS?!?!?!?!!"

"WAAAAAHHHHHHHH BLACK SHIRT!!! WHY!!!!!!!!!"

QFT. Personally, I don't get "Dexter" but I don't whine when we have two shirts which reference that every month.

please forgive my ignorance. what the smurf does "QFT" mean?

What are we talking about? :P

I pressed on the LOAD MORE COMMENTS
button and all I got was this bird shirt.
Hahahahahaha.
Woohoo!!!!

David Epics.

where's the original stuff teefury? I WANT UNIQUENESSSSSSSSSSSSSS >:O

I love Dr. Who, and am a pretty hardcore collector, so I don't mind seeing all the Dr. Who shirts, but my bank account might have another opinion......I understand your point though.

deveraux said:

lanko said: If the artwork is stolen, fair enough for pulling it! But i think an important point has been raised in the above comments. The originality has gone a bit stale. I think there are way too many Dr.Who shirts and not enough original art (art which doesn't focus on a particular TV show). Even if a T shirt isn't exclusively Dr.Who, people who dislike Dr.Who aren't going to buy it.

the same could be said about anything else. of course people who don't like it aren't going to buy it but the issue is that there are about a trillion people who do like doctor who and will buy every single design. don't get me wrong, i'm all for teefury going back to more original pieces that don't have anything to do with pop culture but i think turning the front page of the site in to an anti doctor who rant is a bit ridiculous. this is what the forums are for people.


people will ALWAYS find something to complain about.


"waahhhhh its doctor who AGAIN!!!!"


"waaahhhhhhhhhh WHY ARE YOU PRINTING ON WHITE SHIRTS?!?!?!?!!"


"WAAAAAHHHHHHHH BLACK SHIRT!!! WHY!!!!!!!!!"

THANK YOU!! Everyone needs to stop complaining

I have seen many unique pics go up as wip in forums and no one comments on them. But the second a pop culture mash goes up theres like 50 replies so people say they want unique but do they really want unique.........
you have to live it rather than just say it.
or teefury isn't going to print it. Open your pockets to original art or be stuck in the pop culture trend forever...... and I mean this in the least offensive way peeps but someone has to say it.

Buy or do not buy. There is no whining.

lanko said: If the artwork is stolen, fair enough for pulling it! But i think an important point has been raised in the above comments. The originality has gone a bit stale. I think there are way too many Dr.Who shirts and not enough original art (art which doesn't focus on a particular TV show). Even if a T shirt isn't exclusively Dr.Who, people who dislike Dr.Who aren't going to buy it.

AMEN!

undertow976 said: $10 + Shipping to be a Teefury.com commercial? I think not.

Do you even understand why it was put up? Better this option than nothing for the next six hours. People who want this can get it, everyone else can wait a few hours.

Bhack said: Just started buying from this site and seriously disappointed. Went to put money on my card and come back and the karma shirt gone? Not cool. If u put a shirt up, leave it for the time allowed or don't put it up at all.

I think the intentionally vague wording has been misleading people. Usually when this happens on any of the shirt sites it is due to a copyright issue in which they are contacted during the run of the shirt and asked to pull it.

They are almost always unforseen issues that would otherwise be hard to predict and they have no choice but to pull the shirt or get sued.

Let's see you post yourselves in your favorite TeeFury Shirts.

I loved the Earl shirt.. but I understand.
Guess I will have to buy it elsewhere- hopefully from the original artist. >.

For anyone wanting to know, here is the design that the top half of the Earl shirt was taken from. I did this design for the show when it was on the verge of being cancelled to try and help save it because it was one of my favorite shows.

I commend Teefury for doing the right thing. So much design is being hacked and stolen these days is great to see someone stand behind designers and illustrators custom artwork.

As you can see below the line work is exact. It wouldn't have been that hard for Mr Martyr to find an image of Earl and trace it in his own style but he didn't. He was lazy and just took mine and thought no one would notice.

Thanks, TRON.

deveraux said: everyone complaining about the other design being taken off, it wasn't that artist's work, it was stolen. would you want someone stealing your artwork and making a profit off of it? i seriously doubt it. we should be commending TeeFury for handling the situation and not allowing a theif to profit off the tee sales, not screaming at them for taking the design down.

As an artist myself I completely agree with you. Kudos to TeeFury for doing thier homework and noticing that it was stolen. You guys rock!! :D

Wow, and yours is WAY better. :) I'd rather buy that one!!
Kudos for trying to save the show from one Earl fan to another.

Eh... I wouldn't pay $10 for the logo shirt. :( Sorry, TF! Should've done another grab bag as a replacement or something.

deveraux said:

WAnglais1 said:

deveraux said:

lanko said: If the artwork is stolen, fair enough for pulling it! But i think an important point has been raised in the above comments. The originality has gone a bit stale. I think there are way too many Dr.Who shirts and not enough original art (art which doesn't focus on a particular TV show). Even if a T shirt isn't exclusively Dr.Who, people who dislike Dr.Who aren't going to buy it.

the same could be said about anything else. of course people who don't like it aren't going to buy it but the issue is that there are about a trillion people who do like doctor who and will buy every single design. don't get me wrong, i'm all for teefury going back to more original pieces that don't have anything to do with pop culture but i think turning the front page of the site in to an anti doctor who rant is a bit ridiculous. this is what the forums are for people.

people will ALWAYS find something to complain about.

"waahhhhh its doctor who AGAIN!!!!"

"waaahhhhhhhhhh WHY ARE YOU PRINTING ON WHITE SHIRTS?!?!?!?!!"

"WAAAAAHHHHHHHH BLACK SHIRT!!! WHY!!!!!!!!!"

QFT. Personally, I don't get "Dexter" but I don't whine when we have two shirts which reference that every month.

please forgive my ignorance. what the smurf does "QFT" mean?

"QFT" means "quoted for truth".

I am impressed at the level of irony taking place here. I mean, the shirt was about karma and doing good things when, in fact, the artist did a bad thing, and bad things happened.

It's a shame and all but it still made me chuckle.

With the exception of the one shirt on another site (which was up for three days), there have been no Doctor Who shirts for a week, across TEN shirt sites.


I've seen at least four Star Wars shirts in the last week, not that I am complaining... I don't dislike Star Wars, I just don't buy Star Wars shirts.


And for those looking for "more original" shirts, there ARE sites that sell shirts with artwork that is more obscure, or not tied directly to something, and with ten other sites to peruse, why do you complain SO MUCH when there is a Doctor Who shirt on one of them? (Actually, most of the complaining happens here, and on teefurycopy.)


I come to these sites for the Doctor Who, Walking Dead, Firefly shirts. And yes, I DO buy every one of the aforementioned that I see.

ABABABIRD IS THE WORD,BIRD IS THE WORD ABABA HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT THE WORD?? EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THE BIRD IS THE WORD!!!!!

Bhack said: Just started buying from this site and seriously disappointed. Went to put money on my card and come back and the karma shirt gone? Not cool. If u put a shirt up, leave it for the time allowed or don't put it up at all.

Exact same situation here... :( Really wanted that shirt. Watchin my name is earl as I type this!

I don't agree with this at all. The character "Earl Josaphat Hickey" belongs to NBC-period. ANY thing made that is earl related, is in fact, IP infringement regardless if it was for a shirt, a flier, etc. So artist one made a earl design,artist two made it into a shirt by changing it (more then enough to be considered new art) and then artist one think he can claim rights to this art because of similar lines?? I fart at this idea. IP is a grey area that TF wants to pretend to care about, then why wouldn't they make artist one prove he owns the rights to the IP that is Earl Hickey? Then let artist one go to NBC and file his design for copyright and see how that goes? Artist need to wake up. IP has got all of them chomping at the bit for easy money they think they could be missing out on, when in fact the where just to lazy to make that money themselves.

You always do the shirts I want when I'm broke!

deveraux said: everyone complaining about the other design being taken off, it wasn't that artist's work, it was stolen. would you want someone stealing your artwork and making a profit off of it? i seriously doubt it. we should be commending TeeFury for handling the situation and not allowing a theif to profit off the tee sales, not screaming at them for taking the design down.

I wish i could upvote you in someway.

I don't read the comments here often, but every time I do some one says how there are to many Doctor Who shirts. From what I have seen there are just as many if not more Back to the Future and Harry Potter shirts.

*sigh* All these light colored shirts are not good for me. MOAR NAVY!!

digital2d said: So artist one made a earl design,artist two made it into a shirt by changing it (more then enough to be considered new art) and then artist one think he can claim rights to this art because of similar lines??

please tell me this is a joke. more than enough to be considered new art? SIMILAR LINES?!!?!


i think im going to pass out.

digital2d said: I don't agree with this at all. The character "Earl Josaphat Hickey" belongs to NBC-period. ANY thing made that is earl related, is in fact, IP infringement regardless if it was for a shirt, a flier, etc. So artist one made a earl design,artist two made it into a shirt by changing it (more then enough to be considered new art) and then artist one think he can claim rights to this art because of similar lines?? I fart at this idea. IP is a grey area that TF wants to pretend to care about, then why wouldn't they make artist one prove he owns the rights to the IP that is Earl Hickey? Then let artist one go to NBC and file his design for copyright and see how that goes? Artist need to wake up. IP has got all of them chomping at the bit for easy money they think they could be missing out on, when in fact the where just to lazy to make that money themselves.

That actually is not true. What artist two did was use artist's one's work as a stock image pretty much then added some font with a border. The original image is there, basically unaltered except for being cut in half. The work on the wording is not even exceptionally original, he could of grabbed it and the border from an online font directory.

As for the NBC copyright. That is true but you are pitting a million (if not billion) dollar company against independent artists. Lets face it, its the independent artists that come out with the best designs for promoting shows...also its not hard for NBC to purchase the the artwork, or steal it for that matter. We are not even sure artist 1 was trying to make a profit from his original work so he wasn't not violating and copyright infringement by creating it. It is still artist's ones original work, even if it isn't his original concept.

But in all honesty, speaking as a artist, what artist two did was theft, and they don't deserve to profit from that.

redlightsabr said:

deveraux said:

WAnglais1 said:

deveraux said:

lanko said: If the artwork is stolen, fair enough for pulling it! But i think an important point has been raised in the above comments. The originality has gone a bit stale. I think there are way too many Dr.Who shirts and not enough original art (art which doesn't focus on a particular TV show). Even if a T shirt isn't exclusively Dr.Who, people who dislike Dr.Who aren't going to buy it.

the same could be said about anything else. of course people who don't like it aren't going to buy it but the issue is that there are about a trillion people who do like doctor who and will buy every single design. don't get me wrong, i'm all for teefury going back to more original pieces that don't have anything to do with pop culture but i think turning the front page of the site in to an anti doctor who rant is a bit ridiculous. this is what the forums are for people.

people will ALWAYS find something to complain about.

"waahhhhh its doctor who AGAIN!!!!"

"waaahhhhhhhhhh WHY ARE YOU PRINTING ON WHITE SHIRTS?!?!?!?!!"

"WAAAAAHHHHHHHH BLACK SHIRT!!! WHY!!!!!!!!!"

QFT. Personally, I don't get "Dexter" but I don't whine when we have two shirts which reference that every month.

please forgive my ignorance. what the smurf does "QFT" mean?

"QFT" means "quoted for truth".


I am impressed at the level of irony taking place here. I mean, the shirt was about karma and doing good things when, in fact, the artist did a bad thing, and bad things happened.


It's a shame and all but it still made me chuckle.

oh. thank you. i said that exact same thing right before the other design was removed. someone should call alanis morrisette and let her know that this is irony and she should change the name of her song to "highly inconvenient"

gabehDUH said:

deveraux said: everyone complaining about the other design being taken off, it wasn't that artist's work, it was stolen. would you want someone stealing your artwork and making a profit off of it? i seriously doubt it. we should be commending TeeFury for handling the situation and not allowing a theif to profit off the tee sales, not screaming at them for taking the design down.

I wish i could upvote you in someway.

Well artist one stole the idea of Earl Hickey from the team of people who developed that character and his look. Why are we not worried about them? I don't think they commissioned artist one in any shape or form to post an image of there devolved art (aka Earl Hickey) on the internet. I know this is extreme but I think this whole situation is dumb. Who cares really. I think the art is changed enough to be considered new art. Simple fact, If you want "your art" to not be copied in any way, print it out and lock it in a vault, do not post it on the world wide web.

Im an artist who works in PC modding. I have had people replicate my cases and sell them as new art item. I NEVER tried to have them stop. As a matter of fact I helped many of these copy cats into developing new ideas of there own. ART is meant to be shared and changed as that person sees fit. By allowing people to make copies of my art, it made me produce better items, it gave me insight to what works and doesn't work in a artist view, and when the internet found out I wasn't pissy about it, I actually sold more stuff as people like to invest there money in people who do good things. Karma I believe its called.

In this case. If artist one wants a piece of the cash he should say so. If he really wants the show back allow this piece to be sold on TF. The more people who remember the show by seeing this shirt the better odds they will watch old DVDs, netflix or whatever and build a buzz. Buzz builds and next thing you know they have a season or a one time movie just like Arrested Development did. Maybe im old and bitter, but I think today's young artist need to nut up and hussle harder.

gabehDUH said:

deveraux said: everyone complaining about the other design being taken off, it wasn't that artist's work, it was stolen. would you want someone stealing your artwork and making a profit off of it? i seriously doubt it. we should be commending TeeFury for handling the situation and not allowing a theif to profit off the tee sales, not screaming at them for taking the design down.

I wish i could upvote you in someway.

thank you. i think. i sure hope upvote means what i think it means.

digital2d said: I don't agree with this at all. The character "Earl Josaphat Hickey" belongs to NBC-period. ANY thing made that is earl related, is in fact, IP infringement regardless if it was for a shirt, a flier, etc. So artist one made a earl design,artist two made it into a shirt by changing it (more then enough to be considered new art) and then artist one think he can claim rights to this art because of similar lines?? I fart at this idea. IP is a grey area that TF wants to pretend to care about, then why wouldn't they make artist one prove he owns the rights to the IP that is Earl Hickey? Then let artist one go to NBC and file his design for copyright and see how that goes? Artist need to wake up. IP has got all of them chomping at the bit for easy money they think they could be missing out on, when in fact the where just to lazy to make that money themselves.

Agreed. The former artist should be happy that someone else liked his version of Earl's forehead enough to use it. I don't think a whole lot of thought went into this shirt, it does seem kinda hastily thrown together, but that being said I'm also not a big MNIE fan. I could imagine this being a must-own shirt if I was, perhaps, and being quite pissed that it is removed for IP infringement over a forehead.

gabehDUH said:

digital2d said: I don't agree with this at all. The character "Earl Josaphat Hickey" belongs to NBC-period. ANY thing made that is earl related, is in fact, IP infringement regardless if it was for a shirt, a flier, etc. So artist one made a earl design,artist two made it into a shirt by changing it (more then enough to be considered new art) and then artist one think he can claim rights to this art because of similar lines?? I fart at this idea. IP is a grey area that TF wants to pretend to care about, then why wouldn't they make artist one prove he owns the rights to the IP that is Earl Hickey? Then let artist one go to NBC and file his design for copyright and see how that goes? Artist need to wake up. IP has got all of them chomping at the bit for easy money they think they could be missing out on, when in fact the where just to lazy to make that money themselves.

That actually is not true. What artist two did was use artist's one's work as a stock image pretty much then added some font with a border. The original image is there, basically unaltered except for being cut in half. The work on the wording is not even exceptionally original, he could of grabbed it and the border from an online font directory.


As for the NBC copyright. That is true but you are pitting a million (if not billion) dollar company against independent artists. Lets face it, its the independent artists that come out with the best designs for promoting shows...also its not hard for NBC to purchase the the artwork, or steal it for that matter. We are not even sure artist 1 was trying to make a profit from his original work so he wasn't not violating and copyright infringement by creating it. It is still artist's ones original work, even if it isn't his original concept.


But in all honesty, speaking as a artist, what artist two did was theft, and they don't deserve to profit from that.

Maybe, but your wrong that what artists one art wasn't copyright infringement. ANY duplication of art is considered infringement. I'm not saying its a huge deal, but if we are going to sit around and blame people, lets blame everyone because its true that both artist are not 100%. I simply dont care for the idea of what went down here today. Its really immature of people to only see this issue one way. These EXACT issues are why SOPA is going to win piece by piece When we have artist able to block other artist from selling stolen IP they do not own themselves. No wonder the internet is going down the drain. If we stop pretending we own ideas then these issue go away, sadly I doubt this will ever happen.

I like the pop culture tees. I dont see pancakes for original art.

tedward1986 said:

digital2d said: I don't agree with this at all. The character "Earl Josaphat Hickey" belongs to NBC-period. ANY thing made that is earl related, is in fact, IP infringement regardless if it was for a shirt, a flier, etc. So artist one made a earl design,artist two made it into a shirt by changing it (more then enough to be considered new art) and then artist one think he can claim rights to this art because of similar lines?? I fart at this idea. IP is a grey area that TF wants to pretend to care about, then why wouldn't they make artist one prove he owns the rights to the IP that is Earl Hickey? Then let artist one go to NBC and file his design for copyright and see how that goes? Artist need to wake up. IP has got all of them chomping at the bit for easy money they think they could be missing out on, when in fact the where just to lazy to make that money themselves.

Agreed. The former artist should be happy that someone else liked his version of Earl's forehead enough to use it. I don't think a whole lot of thought went into this shirt, it does seem kinda hastily thrown together, but that being said I'm also not a big MNIE fan. I could imagine this being a must-own shirt if I was, perhaps, and being quite pissed that it is removed for IP infringement over a forehead.

You get me friend. If artist one wants money then he should have done what artist two did. If artist one really wants the show to be back then whats the deal? If artist one didn't want his art to be duplicated he could have (a) not posted it on the internet or (b) had the art copyrighted LEGALLY,which wouldn't happen as he doesn't own the IP.

The pics are not the same pic,doesn't matter if the hair is the same as neither artist own that hair design. IP is such a grey area and all these young artist try to nit pick the parts that work for them and then cry when RIAA swoops in and reminds us we are all wrong. Crazy days.

what happen to the "my name is earl" shirt that was on here at 9:15pm last night??? Anyone else notice that?

There are lots of other places that sell different shirt designs with more varying designs, if u don't like the doctor who and fandom shirts just go somewhere else and stop complaining

I agree with Deveraux. Someone is always complaining about one thing or another when it concerns these pop culture shirts. We really should consider ourselves lucky that sites like teefury even exist. So stop whining about shirt colors and Doctor Who (which has a hardcore fandom right now so why is everyone surprised their shirts are so popular?) If you have an issue, take it up directly with the site. Don't rag on this space which I am sure the artists like to read for the positive comments...instead of the negative ones. Ok, I am done feeding the trolls.

jercorr said: what happen to the "my name is earl" shirt that was on here at 9:15pm last night??? Anyone else notice that?

there's a discussion about this very topic going on somewhere.

The concepts of the Doctor Who shirts may not be original but the actual designs are usually pretty unique, that's compared to the "sports shirts" we have had going for both Harry Potter, The Hunger Games and Game of Thrones, e.g. Hufflepuff, Fighting Imps, Mockingjays etc.

This site posts a lot of fandom shirts about certain T.V, movies and games, why? Because they sell well, which means people want them.

Just to note I buy both the more original ones as well as the Dr Who / Potter etc ones

I'm just thought I'd add my voice to those who have had enough of Dr. Who shirts for awhile.

I WANT THIS SO BADLY, but I am way too broke :(

Antibus said: What the heck? The Karma shirt wasn't original enough, yet this site can run 12 smuuuuuurf Dr. Who shirts a month? That's pretty weak. What about people who bought the shirt before it got pulled? I am seriously not that happy with this site right now.

I'm assuming they mean its original source is being called into question. It may have been stolen. Plus, they know their fan base really well, which is why there are so many Doctor Who shirts. I don't understand/like a lot of shirts on the site, but that doesn't mean I get upset when they put one up that I don't like. I just keep coming back until there's one I love!

i check this website every day. RELIGIOUSLY. a few days ago, i looked back at the gallery from the very beginning... it's such a huge difference. i understand if teefury is trying to make a profit, but really if i see another tee from dr. who i'm going to smurf a brick. are there no artists who design beautiful graphic tee designs that send in their stuff?

What does someone stealing another's art have to do with TeeFury having a lot of Doctor Who shirts?? This is the worst excuse to complain I've ever heard! They have absolutely no correlation!

does this mean if you do bad things, bad things will happen?

PEOPLE. They took a shirt down. The art was similar and a question of originality came up. PERIOD. Seriously. It's a shirt. Obviously you can get that image frequently since people are copying it so easily. So, move on. Make the shirt yourself. Who cares. Tomorrow's tee please. :)

WAnglais1 said:

Antibus said: What the heck? The Karma shirt wasn't original enough, yet this site can run 12 smuuuuuurf Dr. Who shirts a month? That's pretty weak. What about people who bought the shirt before it got pulled? I am seriously not that happy with this site right now.

Three in January and only one was directly a Doctor Who shirt. The other two featured other aspects of sci-fi in addition to The Doctor.

3 too many :)

So do I get my money back or...?

no, and there goes my brothers birthdaysgift :(

Agree that the artwork is not as eclectic or original as it used to be, which is why I haven't bought anything in a long time. Too much similar stuff targeting the same audience.

TeDDyBeaR said: no, and there goes my brothers birthdaysgift :(

No we don't get our money back?

deveraux said:

lanko said: If the artwork is stolen, fair enough for pulling it! But i think an important point has been raised in the above comments. The originality has gone a bit stale. I think there are way too many Dr.Who shirts and not enough original art (art which doesn't focus on a particular TV show). Even if a T shirt isn't exclusively Dr.Who, people who dislike Dr.Who aren't going to buy it.

the same could be said about anything else. of course people who don't like it aren't going to buy it but the issue is that there are about a trillion people who do like doctor who and will buy every single design. don't get me wrong, i'm all for teefury going back to more original pieces that don't have anything to do with pop culture but i think turning the front page of the site in to an anti doctor who rant is a bit ridiculous. this is what the forums are for people.

people will ALWAYS find something to complain about.

"waahhhhh its doctor who AGAIN!!!!"

"waaahhhhhhhhhh WHY ARE YOU PRINTING ON WHITE SHIRTS?!?!?!?!!"

"WAAAAAHHHHHHHH BLACK SHIRT!!! WHY!!!!!!!!!"

It's just a matter that this used to be a higher quality site than it is currently. The whole internet t-shirt culture has gotten stale due to an emphasis on a very, very small reference pool.

Yes the Dr. Who shirts sell, but are you telling me designs for other things don't sell? and I'm not just talking about the 10,000 Calvin and Hobbes shirt either.

TeeFury!! Could we have another whack at the TeeFury Logo Tee that you had on Jan. 23? Or do we have to wait for another Grab Bag Day to purchase that magnificent design?

Was a nice shirt, but if its stolen artwork, then the thief doesn't deserve a dime. Would like to see some sort of My Name is Earl shirt in the next month or so just to replace the one we couldn't get today.

Okay, I understand that if the design was stolen, they can't sell it, but my debit card hasn't been given a refund, and I absolutely, 100% do NOT want the replacement shirt... Still haven't seen a reply email, either. What gives?

I think they should've replaced the stolen design with either the most popular design they've had in the last month, or a grab bag or the last month's tees

Azzyryth said: Antubis has it spot on. They spout "originality", but they seem to have a minimum of one Dr Who shirt a week.

By originality, they don't mean in terms of concept but the fact that the art did not come from the person who submitted it.

lanko said: Even if a T shirt isn't exclusively Dr.Who, people who dislike Dr.Who aren't going to buy it.

One of the designs featured time-travel devices, including the TARDIS (from Doctor Who).

Are people honestly that peeved about Doctor Who that they would avoid the shirt that has 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 other time-travel devices from franchises they DO find entertaining?

Seriously, this anti-Who whining needs to stop. If you can't stop yourself, maybe try one of the other hundred-or-so T-shirt sites out there...

I concur. I am a graphic artist and do tons of work for a major video game company and had to learn the ins and outs of this sort of thing as they're, obviously, very picky about how their IPs are represented and the illustrations used in work. Artist 2, I'm sure, didn't think that their design was infringing on anything, and technically it wasn't because NBC does own all rights to said character. This is considered "fan art" which is typically looked upon by the owner as free promotion more often than not. As for the "theft" claims, I believe the law states that the art needs to be at least 30% different from, in this case, an existing design to be deemed "original" work. I can say that I, wouldn't have used Artist 1's illustration exactly and would have traced it myself with my own style, but as I said I'm sure Artist 2 didn't mean to cause such a stir, and for all intents and purposes it shouldn't have made waves with anyone in my opinion. Isn't it common practice to take inspiration from other work?

Antibus said: Okay, I understand that if the design was stolen, they can't sell it, but my debit card hasn't been given a refund, and I absolutely, 100% do NOT want the replacement shirt... Still haven't seen a reply email, either. What gives?

Likewise. Debit card hasn't been refunded yet, don't want new tee.

deveraux said:
"WAAAAAHHHHHHHH BLACK SHIRT!!! WHY!!!!!!!!!"

There's exactly one reason why I complain about black shirts: out of the dozen or so shirts I've bought from TeeFury, only one was black.

And it's the only one that shrunk in the wash to the point where it doesn't fit.

That tells me the black shirts are made of a lower-quality fabric hidden under black dye.

deveraux said:

lanko said: If the artwork is stolen, fair enough for pulling it! But i think an important point has been raised in the above comments. The originality has gone a bit stale. I think there are way too many Dr.Who shirts and not enough original art (art which doesn't focus on a particular TV show). Even if a T shirt isn't exclusively Dr.Who, people who dislike Dr.Who aren't going to buy it.

the same could be said about anything else. of course people who don't like it aren't going to buy it but the issue is that there are about a trillion people who do like doctor who and will buy every single design. don't get me wrong, i'm all for teefury going back to more original pieces that don't have anything to do with pop culture but i think turning the front page of the site in to an anti doctor who rant is a bit ridiculous. this is what the forums are for people.


people will ALWAYS find something to complain about.


"waahhhhh its doctor who AGAIN!!!!"


"waaahhhhhhhhhh WHY ARE YOU PRINTING ON WHITE SHIRTS?!?!?!?!!"


"WAAAAAHHHHHHHH BLACK SHIRT!!! WHY!!!!!!!!!"

Agreed. People need to stop complaining. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Holyy.

I'm VERY disappointed u guys took the my name is earl shirt off. Came back on to buy it and it was gone. Buys lots of shirts from here and that turns me away from this site.

Rock on Teefury for the timely and appropriate response to the plagiarism issue.

samwelborn said: i check this website every day. RELIGIOUSLY. a few days ago, i looked back at the gallery from the very beginning... it's such a huge difference. i understand if teefury is trying to make a profit, but really if i see another tee from dr. who i'm going to smurf a brick. are there no artists who design beautiful graphic tee designs that send in their stuff?

I'm a new artist to this site and i'm currently working on some pieces that have no relation to tv shows or pop culture. I hope some of my designs get put up

Really? THAT'S why it got pulled? Those two designs are only vaguely similar...

Just for the record there are roughly 7 million Doctor Who viewers at its height. Some even like to wear t-shirts. Teefury would be foolish not to keep them up regularly.

Wish it had teefury.com underneath the logo, so I could tell casual passersby about the site!

Shenanigans!!! Get your brooms!

I want this so bad, but unfortunately I have car repairs to pay for :(

Having now seen both designs in the comments above me, it's pretty ridiculous that it was taken down. 50% of the shirts on this site are based off of other works including many times outright copyright infringement (not that I have a problem with that, just pointing it out). Very little if ever do you see an original design on this site, if you were consistent you would be pulling down your shirts every single day.

nachtmuzic said: Just for the record there are roughly 7 million Doctor Who viewers at its height. Some even like to wear t-shirts. Teefury would be foolish not to keep them up regularly.

Yeah? And I'm sure there are just as many fans of many other properties that don't get shirts even once every season, let alone multiple shirts a month. I'm not saying, and never have said, there should be no Who shirts, but they should be spaced out further.

Can I get my money back, Teefury? I don't want this replacement shirt, if that's what you're thinking about doing.

glad teefury was able to take it off, too bad for the people who bought it, what about the original artist? where is his/her cut?

Reading the comments, This isn't about how cool you all think you are, Get over your selves. It's about supporting the artists on Teefury. Buy a shirt wear the shirt, If someone asks explane the logo, get some more peple invalved. Help out the site and the artist!

For smurf'S SAKE. If the artwork was stolen, it is the RIGHT of the ORIGINAL ARTIST to ask it to be taken down, and what you idiots want DOESN'T MATTER. GET. THE. smurf. OVER. IT.

Also, I vote that the next T-Fury shirt be a Dr. Who design, just to piss off the whiny haters who decided to smurf about it in a post about an unrelated topic.

deveraux said:

lanko said: If the artwork is stolen, fair enough for pulling it! But i think an important point has been raised in the above comments. The originality has gone a bit stale. I think there are way too many Dr.Who shirts and not enough original art (art which doesn't focus on a particular TV show). Even if a T shirt isn't exclusively Dr.Who, people who dislike Dr.Who aren't going to buy it.

the same could be said about anything else. of course people who don't like it aren't going to buy it but the issue is that there are about a trillion people who do like doctor who and will buy every single design. don't get me wrong, i'm all for teefury going back to more original pieces that don't have anything to do with pop culture but i think turning the front page of the site in to an anti doctor who rant is a bit ridiculous. this is what the forums are for people.

people will ALWAYS find something to complain about.

"waahhhhh its doctor who AGAIN!!!!"

"waaahhhhhhhhhh WHY ARE YOU PRINTING ON WHITE SHIRTS?!?!?!?!!"

"WAAAAAHHHHHHHH BLACK SHIRT!!! WHY!!!!!!!!!"

I don't know about a trillion lol I watched the original Dr Who way back when ever, I don't want to think how many years ago that was, but I do know I don't need 100 t-shirts based off one subject no matter how huge a fan I am. BTW any shirt on here could be in trouble from copy right infringement as most of them feature some sort of likeness to a cult film or tv show. Taking artistic merit with an interpretation of something or someone isn't exactly a legal way of making money. Unless of course you are the *creator* of facebook...

thenutman69321 said: Having now seen both designs in the comments above me, it's pretty ridiculous that it was taken down. 50% of the shirts on this site are based off of other works including many times outright copyright infringement (not that I have a problem with that, just pointing it out). Very little if ever do you see an original design on this site, if you were consistent you would be pulling down your shirts every single day.

I have to agree with you, and I made a similar statement below...

If you're gonna replace a design with your own logo, then mark it down to $6!

deveraux said:

lanko said: If the artwork is stolen, fair enough for pulling it! But i think an important point has been raised in the above comments. The originality has gone a bit stale. I think there are way too many Dr.Who shirts and not enough original art (art which doesn't focus on a particular TV show). Even if a T shirt isn't exclusively Dr.Who, people who dislike Dr.Who aren't going to buy it.

the same could be said about anything else. of course people who don't like it aren't going to buy it but the issue is that there are about a trillion people who do like doctor who and will buy every single design. don't get me wrong, i'm all for teefury going back to more original pieces that don't have anything to do with pop culture but i think turning the front page of the site in to an anti doctor who rant is a bit ridiculous. this is what the forums are for people.


people will ALWAYS find something to complain about.


"waahhhhh its doctor who AGAIN!!!!"


"waaahhhhhhhhhh WHY ARE YOU PRINTING ON WHITE SHIRTS?!?!?!?!!"


"WAAAAAHHHHHHHH BLACK SHIRT!!! WHY!!!!!!!!!"

well said timelord, i have bought 3 dr who shirts and will by others as long as they remaining cool & originally for any of my pop culture stuff i buy

Thank you Limi-Tees for digging a little more into this Karma issue.
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I can see both sides of each argument. In my opinion, yeah original art is cool, and props to the artist for being cool, and getting their name/art out there, but when I buy a Teefury shirt I want something I recognize. I say, "Hey I love that show/movie/pop culture reference/sci-fi thingy, I want to get that shirt so when I wear it other people will know I love that (blah blah)" So the reality of it is that original art isn't going to sell as well.

tashab07 said:

lanko said: If the artwork is stolen, fair enough for pulling it! But i think an important point has been raised in the above comments. The originality has gone a bit stale. I think there are way too many Dr.Who shirts and not enough original art (art which doesn't focus on a particular TV show). Even if a T shirt isn't exclusively Dr.Who, people who dislike Dr.Who aren't going to buy it.

and yet the other thousand people who ARE fans of Doctor Who WILL buy it. If Doctor Who shirts didn't sell like crazy, TF would stop printing them.


Nothing you can do about it, get over it. They've listened to you whiners and only printed 3 this month. You won't be happy until they don't print them at all, which is ridiculous considering how well they sell.


Grow up, build a bridge, and get over it.

Seconded. >.>

the shirt was stupid anyways

Can I get my money back? I ordered this shirt for my dad, who just had a heart attack. The shirt was canceled. but the charge on my bank account is still there. It's only 12.50, so I'm not going to freak out about it, but it'd be nice to be refunded.

tronburgundy said: For anyone wanting to know, here is the design that the top half of the Earl shirt was taken from. I did this design for the show when it was on the verge of being cancelled to try and help save it because it was one of my favorite shows.


I commend Teefury for doing the right thing. So much design is being hacked and stolen these days is great to see someone stand behind designers and illustrators custom artwork.


As you can see below the line work is exact. It wouldn't have been that hard for Mr Martyr to find an image of Earl and trace it in his own style but he didn't. He was lazy and just took mine and thought no one would notice.


Thanks, TRON.

Wow! Thanks for posting this, tronburgundy. I concur completely.

For the record, This is "Artist One" who created the original artwork and it was never used for any kind of monetary gain on my behalf whatsoever. The artwork was sent to the show creator Greg Garcia for everyone to post around the internet to help try and stop its cancellation. Greg Garcia and Earl (aka Jason Lee) both saw the design and said they loved it and thanked me for my effort which was the best payment I could have recieved.

"Artist Two" could have avoided this whole issue by simply drawing his own unique outline of Earls head and there wouldn't have been any problems... with me at least. It was just pure laziness in effort to make a quick buck. if you actually go look the border isn't his either, it's the exact one from the show graphics so there really isn't anything original on this graphic.

Taking this graphic down had nothing to do with money for me, if it had I would have tried to sell it to fox. This was simply about standing up for graphic artist and illustrators custom artwork everywhere. As more and more people become familiar with photoshop and the "Vector trace" tool in illustrator its only going to become a bigger problem.

Imitation is the biggest form of flattery and I agree, Everyone has to start somewhere and imitating artist / artwork you admire is the best way to learn. But the second you start trying to sell it or make a profit from it, it's not imitation anymore it's theft. This is a classic case of why earn it when you can steal it.

And yes, this is the most ironic smurf I have ever seen in my life. - TRON

love it. nice and original.